A Hunan TV station decided to stop showing Taiwanese TV drama “Devil Beside You,” starring Mike He and Rainie Yang.
It happens after the TV station received a petition signed by over thousands of TV viewers boycotting Rainie… seems like some people are still mad at a Rainie’s statement 4 years ago, some improper words (which I don’t think she really meant it) towards Chinese war victims in World War 2.
Rainie has apologized in public a couple of times, but there are still people that are unhappy about her. In fact despite her superstar fame in Taiwan, Rainie is not getting many chances to perform on big stages in China.
On the positive note there are still fans that stand for Rainie… it is said that her fans in Hunan is collecting signings on a different petition to request the TV station to show the drama again.
July 29th, 2007 at 5:50 am
she so stupid that’s what she gets. what did she say anyways…she think she too cute she just putting herself down
July 29th, 2007 at 10:22 am
Refer to the below link for what she said…
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July 29th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Sounds like her remark was taken out of context. Maybe when she said, “only eight”, that was expressing surprise that she was wrong about the number of years. I can’t imagine that she would say it with any kind of sarcastic intent as some apparently took it for. As for her comment about the invasion and war being none of the business of this generation, I believe again that was just a poor way of expressing herself. I suspect she’s just say that the new generation need to move past the bitterness and hard feelings while at the same time always remember it happened. Those were different times and different world leaders. I tend to agree. Retaining eternal hatred for past history is what keeps this world from moving forward in alot of cases. If she apologized then there’s really nothing more she can do.
July 29th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
joe… true about the first part; I do agree that she is more like being surprise rather than sarcastic… it was not right but she apologized for that.
Her idea about ‘people should move on’ might be true… but sadly it can’t be applied on the specific situation. Some China’s people still can’t forgive what the Japanese have done; and the Japs’ continous denial in lots of the war crimes (Nanking massacre etc) only make thing worse.
Actually Rainie’s case is rather unfortunate… she did angered a group of people, but somehow the issue got into a snowball effect, and people started to hate her without a serious reason. There is really nothing she can do.
July 30th, 2007 at 1:00 am
Who needs her really?
If she were Korean, none of these ameliorating remarks would be made about her situation.
July 30th, 2007 at 6:48 am
Yummy, no doubt the Nanking tortures and killings were examples of some of the worst deeds ever done to people. The leaders of the Japanese Empire including Hirohito should have paid for their crimes. And Japanese government should do more to aknowledge the crimes of their previous militant leaders. It’s unfortunate that Rainie has even gotten caught up in any of that discussion. She’s a young entertainer who means no harm I would imagine.
July 30th, 2007 at 10:36 am
Cara… you are saying that her situation could be worse if she is a Korean?
joe… hope she learned her lesson well; I can see that her behavior (although still trying to act cute) has improve over the years… she is not as blunt as she used to be.
July 30th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
What petty crap.
I’m not even a fan of Rainie or her work but she’s completely correct. Oh and…
A link to war apology statements issued by Japan
…it’s not some secret in Japan that they fucked up during World War 2. They just don’t blare it over the loud speaker because they aren’t proud of it. Sort of like…well…sort of like every other country in existence.
The fact is, the logical decision is not to pass down hatred from generation to generation. Just as ignorance begets ignorance, the same applies to hatred. Teaching kids that Japanese people are superior is just as dumb as having your Korean infant stomp on a burning Japanese flag. What does that produce? A healthy political spectrum? Nope. Another emotional reactionary generation ripe to create another clusterfuck. Great.
July 30th, 2007 at 8:12 pm
Chad… it is not as easy as it is. It is easy for us to say not to pass on the hatred, that it is not a healthy development for the future…
But imagine that your family members is killed or raped in a war… will you forgive someone who started it? And will you asked your children to forgive those who killed or raped your family members? You might still be able to answer it in a mature and idle way… but fact is, it never happened to us… we just don’t know.
It is not something that we can conclude unless we experienced it ourselves (which I don’t wish to happen).
July 30th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
It’s that easy for those who are rational and intelligent enough to recognize vengeful feelings as unproductive and are therefore able to separate themselves.
Should Japanese Americans hate their own country for being imprisoned like animals? When does it end? Those 3 countries all spew the rhetoric of peace but are unwilling to change the national mindset in order to create it. Therein lies the problem.
I fully realize it’s not reality, as the great majority of the world is not willing to be the “bigger person” in a matter where national pride is at stake (which is a whole other thing, don’t get me started). The fact is, the solution is there, just nobody wants to take it. A pipedream? Sure. But most good things start as a grassroots movement, this should be no exception.
July 30th, 2007 at 8:41 pm
There are not many people that could change the situation… and it is getting tougher as time goes by.
It is not just the Japs-Chinese-Korean that have this kind of problems… there are countries in Europe that have that kind of tension… but the hatred is kept under the surface. It seems like it is moment of real peace, but those histories will still be raised again when some controversies arise.
July 30th, 2007 at 10:39 pm
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July 30th, 2007 at 11:51 pm
wat did she say?
July 30th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
Refer to the below link…
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July 31st, 2007 at 1:33 pm
I’m in America so I may not be able to say really much about this because I don’t know much about this but I think everyone makes mistakes and it’s not wrong it’s only wronge when you make mistakes and not change your action it’s right when you change and everyone deserves a second chance everyone has a right to be forgiven I came to China in june to stay for the summer and I was looking forward to seeing Devil by your side even though I’ve seen it before that shows how much I love this movie and there are many others out there just like me so please give her one more chance and forgive her
July 31st, 2007 at 1:37 pm
I was waiting and waiting for devil by your side to show up on hunan wei shi and how much time that felt like but now I cant see it and I’m about to go back to America and I’m not saying lu guang sen lin is bad or anything but that wasn’t what I was looking forward to…
July 31st, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Violations of human rights throughout history are unforgivable whether they took place in wartime, or peacetime. It’s been going on since man’s existence. Those past deeds are not excusable by any means but I think it’s always a good idea for people to read up on history and delve into the details about the societies of past and the injusticies they commited against each other and the reasons behind those deeds as wrong as they were.. What is the benefit ? Well, it is only to gain a better understanding of those events so as to not let them happen again. Also to understand that most of the deeds were not the doings of the general populus but rather of the leadership and governments. To gain a real knowledge of the Japanese military’s abuses to the Chinese before and during WWII, a good book I recommend is Iris Chang’s “Rape Of Nanking” It covers in explicit detail the events leading up to the invasion and the subsequent rampages of killing and torture. It describes how the Chinese military was structured, the Chinese population, Chinese culture, the Japanese situation in the world at the time, the structure of japanese society and culture and military, the Emperor, the western world, and the state of the world economy and relations pre and post WWI and leading up to WWII, and many other elements that help to at least understand more clearly the events of those times, but not to excuse or forgive the atrocities commited. Some of Iris Chang’s relatives incidently survived Nanking.
July 31st, 2007 at 3:18 pm
xiaokeai… from CCTV -
当年杨丞琳在大陆极受欢迎的综艺节目《我猜，我猜，我猜猜》现场，主持人吴宗宪提问“抗日战争打了几年”，杨丞琳先回答是“11年吗？”在得知答案以后，杨丞琳回答：“才8年而已啊？”而当得知日军在南京大屠杀中残忍杀害我40万同胞时，她的反应居然是：“才40万？” 这位明星懵懵懂懂的，便由两个“才”字触发轩然大波。
It’s not just the words, it’s the tone of her words that caused the trouble.
joe… I read the book too (more like browsing through though).
Part of the reason that the Chinese-Japanese relationship is still in tension is because there are constant denial about the war crime from some Japanese leaders.
Some of the Japs actually claimed that Nanking massacre never happened, and a few years ago some Japanese text books was revised and the history of WW2 was twisted in their favor…
China was under invasion for years before WW2, from the alliances of UK, USA etc… but Chinese doesn’t shared as much hatred towards those countries as to the Japs. One of the reason is obviously for the death toll… the other is probably the Jap’s denial. I am not sure if UK, USA etc. have ever apologized for their colonization of China, but they never deny the fact that they have done it.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:49 am
Oh no doubt, I’m fully aware of the past colonizations and the ‘bullying’ some countries did to China as well as many countries in the east and mid east over the decades. As I said, the governments have always used strong arm techniques against other countries to enforce their will. Alot if not most of it was to secure trade openings against the willl of countries like China who wished to remain isolated. Hong Kong for example was controlled by the British after they forced the Chinese into a corner saying basically let us control it or else. They surounded the port with warships until they agreed to it. Britain valued it among other reasons as a port opening for the opium trade. The Boxer rebellion was one of those instances where the Chinese tried to expell westerners from their country because of the opium trade and the havoc it was reeking on their country.
Although the Japs were in a tight position following WWI with economic depression, a fast growing population and very little land and resources to accomodate it, they also had an agenda from very early on back into the 19th century to dominate all of Asia. The Japanese thought of themselves as the superior race and their Emperor was regarded as God, and to die for him was considered an honor. Their goal was to take over China, Korea, Phillipines, Vietnam etc etc, Then after that, they had a stated plan to conquer the white race of the western world. They even had agreements drawn up as to how they would split up the continental U.S and Canada between themselves and Germany at the end of WWII.
It’s worthy to note that although western governments colonized these countries at points in time (Britain probably did the largest part of it), in the case of Nanking, their were also individual Americans and even a German member of the Nazi party (who was later shunned by the Germans and is considered a hero to the Chinese to this day for his efforts) who provided help and one of the only safe areas for the citizens of Nanking during the invasion. And they had a heck of a time keeping the Jap soldiers away. Unfortunately that safe zone was not large enough to contain many of the refugees. Many had to be turned away at the end. In fact, these westerners took alot of pictures that they smuggled out of China and got them to the U.S. where they were published and produced an outrage against what the Japanese were doing. Diaries were kept to record the atrocities witnessed. Up until that time most people around the world were unaware of these atrocities going on. Information about wars did not get to the public as easily in those days like it does now.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:53 am
Yummy, yes, I heard about the text books being revised in japan. Also an uproar was caused about the honoring of dead war heros in japan. And I know about the denial of some of the Japanese that Nanking never happened. There are still people today that claim the Nazi Holocaust never happened either. All of these events are pretty well documented.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:06 am
joe… ya, I read about a Western priests that save hundreds (or thousands) of life during the massacre.
Actually the situation reminded me the tension between Middle East and USA (+ alliances)… I wonder if the terrorism and the hatred will ever end in near future. It is growing into a snow ball effect now…
August 1st, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Don’t know. It all looks rather bleak sometimes. All we can do in this world is hope people, governmets and leaders do the right things, not make mistakes and learn from the past. :)
August 1st, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Ya, we can only hope for the best.
August 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
what actually did she say about WW2? i know she’s dissed the japs before but i haven’t heard about this one.
August 4th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
minxskyz…
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August 5th, 2007 at 12:41 am
I think some people might overreact on this issue. But I should say I depise this girl, she has too little brain, she is just stupid. And she acts so fake in her series.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:52 am
yeah what did she say to ww2?
August 8th, 2007 at 6:58 am
Wikipedia states:
In 2003, Yang mistook the eight-year Second Sino-Japanese War as having been eleven years in length during a television program. After having learned the actual length of the war, she responded with “Only eight years?” This response generated anger in mainland China, leading to boycotting of Hunan Satellite Television’s airing of Devil Beside You, in which she acted. Upon learning the widespread boycott, Hunan TV replaced the show’s airtime with Green Forest, My Home.[2]
August 9th, 2007 at 2:14 am
What’s worse. When they mentioned that 300,000 people died in this massacre. Yang acted surprised: only 300,000 people?
August 9th, 2007 at 2:15 am
I was referring to Nan jing Massacre
August 9th, 2007 at 11:15 am
Thanks for the note Lyna.
vivibear… it was a mistake, no doubt about that… but isn’t it harsh to hate her for that for years?
August 11th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
awwwww.. so sad for her.:(
August 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
hi..sisters,brothers,mothers and fathers please for give this girl,,it`s already 4 years ago,,and it`s so sad for her that until now you dont give your forgiveness,,she`s only a human that sometime can do a mistake,, even us didn`t no someday were mistaken but the important is the forgiveness and chance that we want for the people,and atleast we apologized our mistake.So plz…be forgiveness to the people needs your forgiveness
September 18th, 2007 at 6:56 am
they have no proof she said anything about nanjing massacre
only about the eight years thing
but she dropped out to be in showbiz so its not her fault she said it
and plus her career is acting and singing and hosting
not history.
my brother is an electric engineer. he shouldnt need to know anything about music. he can, that makes him smart, but all you really need is to do good in your own career
October 17th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
agree what #34 says…and #33
Like what my mom says, if u can forgive them then forgive them.
like if someone stole ur pencil.. ur not going to act crazii and all that stop trying to bragging whining and yelling
No, that wont work if u keep yelling and tell them to give back.
so just calm down and give us a chance to say sorry,and be nice to each other.. “treat other the way u want to be treated” ^^
November 16th, 2007 at 9:26 am
I think its really stupid that people can act like that towards something like that, she obviously didnt know n shes just bad at history thats all.
December 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Um the Nanking Massacre thing is farce. I saw from another source, that that event was an add-on to her mistake regarding the duration of the Sino-Japanese war. So if you’re hating her for that, you’re sorely mistaken. But since when does entertainment and politics have to mix? You like her work or you don’t regardless of how you feel about her.
To people who actually insulted her and degraded her: who cares? People who enjoy her work will continue to support her. So save your bad attitude for yourself. Expressing more of that would just make people wonder if that’s how Chinese are like when they become nationalistic (which is totally disrespectful).
March 24th, 2008 at 11:49 am
People aren’t perferct. This does not make her lesser of a person. Forgive her and move on. I’m sure she has learned a valuable lesson from it.. Raine! keep up your good work!
May 9th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
anyone has the link to the interview in 2003?
May 29th, 2008 at 2:38 am
i’m not a fan of rainie yang so i don’t care about that much